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		<title>SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX VS FICA TAX</title>
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		<category><![CDATA[Kelly Phillips Erb;]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that Tim Geithner, BO’s choice for Secretary of the Treasury, has replaced Joe the Plumber as the most talked-about taxpayer (or in this case – tax non-payer) of the moment. Geithner’s situation has brought attention to the issue of the Self-Employment Tax. All workers are required to pay into the Social Security system [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify"><span>It seems that Tim Geithner, BO’s choice for Secretary of the Treasury, has replaced Joe the Plumber as the most talked-about taxpayer (or in this case – tax non-payer) of the moment.  Geithner’s situation has brought attention to the issue of the Self-Employment Tax.</p>
<p>All workers are required to pay into the Social Security system – unless you work for the government or some non-profit organizations.  Employees have FICA (Social Security and Medicare) Tax withheld from their wages.  Employers must match the amount withheld.  Individuals with “net earnings from self-employment” pay the Self-Employment Tax – which is actually FICA Tax.  However they must pay “both halves” of the FICA tax (the equivalent of the employee’s share and the employer’s share).  </span></div>
<div align="justify"><span>.</span></div>
<div align="justify"><span>Where a W-2 employee pays 7.65% of wages (up to the statutory maximum – at which point they pay 1.45% on the excess earnings) a self-employed individual pays 15.3% (up to the same maximum – at which point they pay 2.9% on the excess).</p>
<p>In reality self-employed individuals actually pay only 14.13% on “net earnings from self-employment”, as the 15.3% is only applied to 92.35% of their net Schedule E (or K-1) earnings.  Plus they are allowed an “above-the-line” deduction for ½ of their Self-Employment Tax – so the actual effective tax rate depends on their federal income tax rate.  taking into account the 50% self-employment tax adjustment to income, the “effective” cost of your self-employment tax is –</p>
<p>* 15% Bracket = 13.07%<br />* 25% Bracket = 12.36%<br />* 28% Bracket = 12.15%</p>
<p>The “Fix The Tax Code Friday” topic at Kelly Phillips Erb’s TAXGIRL blog today is “<a href="http://www.taxgirl.com/fix-the-tax-code-friday-se-tax"><strong><span>Fix the Tax Code Friday: SE Tax</span></strong></a>”.  She asks the question – “<em>Should self-employed persons be allowed to opt out of paying self employment tax (and thus, collecting Social Security benefits and the like)?</em>”.</p>
<p>In my comment on the question submitted at TAXGIRL I said that “My answer is yes – but only if “normal” W-2 employees were similarly able to “opt out” of Social Security. As long as one class of worker is required to participate it should be mandatory for all classes.</p>
<p>I also support private Social Security accounts – not invested in the stock market, but in the money market or Treasury securities market.”</p>
<p>If I was able to invest all the money that I paid into the Social Security system over the years, and all future payments, in a 5% money market account or bank CD I would have a lot more money at retirement than I will be collecting from Social Security. </p>
<p>In addition – if I apply for Social Security and get my first check and then drop dead the next day, all the money I paid into the system will not go to my beneficiaries but to other SS recipients.  All the money will be lost!  If I had instead invested the money in a private account the balance would pass on to my sister and other relatives.</p>
<p>My comment goes on to say – “The self-employment tax calculation should be corrected to bring it in line with the treatment allowed a one-man corporation. In a one man corporation all employee benefits provided to the owner, like health insurance and pension contributions, reduce {the money available to pay} the owner’s salary. FICA tax is only assessed on the actual salary.</p>
<p>With a self-employed individual, the SE tax is imposed on net profit of the business before deducting the self-employed health insurance premiums and pension contributions for the self-employed person and the ½ of SE tax.</p>
<p>Owner health insurance premiums and pension contributions should be Schedule C deductions and not adjustments to income.”</p>
<p>In the case of two self-employed individuals with the exact same income and expenses – one filing Schedule C and one incorporated – the Schedule C filer will pay a lot more in Self-Employment Tax than the incorporated business owner will pay in employee and employer FICA tax.  Is that fair?</p>
<p>So how would you answer Kelly’s question – and what do you think of my suggestions?</span></div>
<p><a href=http://wanderingtaxpro.blogspot.com/2009/01/self-employment-tax-vs-fica-tax.html>Link to the original site</a></p>
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